Self deleting trace file

So. I want to begin with a major thank you to arcdroid… it really has changed so many things for me and my workshop… i build cars… cardboard patterns to crossmember sections and everything between… even certified engine mounts…
But down to my little dillema. I upgraded to the x2 droid mount… take a cardboard template… trace it… looks good… auto retraces perfect… but when i plasma cut two copies, without needing to slide the droid. These are usually small parts. I get the pop up saying something to the effect that the process is busy. Which will stay there till the cut is complete… and then boof… my trace is auto deleted… screen has no linework loaded at all… i do my updates when they come up… and calibrate often… if the retrace doesnt look right i do a calibration… i hope its just me doing goober mistakes. Can someone point me in the right direction please… thanks for your time… Dan

Thats a new one, haven’t seen anyone else post up that problem.
Does the screen flicker out like it is doing a reset? After this happens must you home the Droid to do anything? That would indicate it actually shut down.

I was having this problem when I first got my X2 ,make sure your machine is grounded properly using a grounding rod and make sure separate lines going from your table arcdroid, and the X2 rails all go back to a bus bar then to the grounding rod I did this and solved my issues with designs dissapearing going way out into No Man’s Land once the cut was finished and also solved the problem with blue rectangle slowly washing away out of the cut area like it was on water. Also make sure the rails for the X2 are cleaned regularly as I’ve found it affects the grounding if they are dirty and then causes all sorts of problems with design moving .hope this helps .
Paul.

Gghoon, can you please describe your grounding better? I have had lots of small random problems since getting the X2 and I leave it unplugged unless I need it.

Hi BobD, I think it does do a flicker, like my eye just caught it kind of thing. then the popup window, it will finish its current path and cut fine, until the torch lift. then the linework is gone. pushing home does what it should, and it seems buisness as usual after that. its wierd. but theres a few guys mentioning droid grounding. im gonna have a look into that, if not i will video it and see if i cant screen shot out the important bits… thanks BobD

HI Gqhoon. grounding is something i hadnt considered, I have made a welding fixture table with rubber castors, which until the X2 arrived had worked perfectly, allowing me to be semi mobile within my workspace, it carries the droid and plasma unit as a package, so apart from internal electrical grounding from my machines, should i have a lead to another earth, I will try and video what happens and screen shot the important bits, that would be more precise of me for description. i had wondered if its a memory thing, i will have a look at that also. thanks for your input, and i hope it is something silly ive done or have not done. thanks again

No problem Danny I will explain it as best I can, this is just how I did it from the information I could gather, first thing is never have your grounding leads linking to one another as it just will not allow it to dissipate the noise created by the plasma properly . Each grounding lead should lead back to the bus bar and then the bus bar connected to the grounding rod so I have the Arcdroid, the plasma torch arm, the water table and the X2 slide all connected to the bus bar with separate leads and then I have a lead from the bus bar to the grounding Rod which is a solid copper rod driven about five foot into the ground outside my garage, totally separate from the building.I have added some pictures below so you can see what I’m talking about and I’m sure there are better ways to do it this is just what I came up with from the information I could gather. I hope this helps solve your issue






. PS. lightly scuff up the top of the aluminium rail on the X2 with a Scotch bright just on top and also keep the rails clean as it seems to affect your grounding if they are dirty and have a build up of grime . I also added ferrite clamps to all the cables except the Cat6 .

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Hey mate I posted a reply in the thread , hope it helps.

hey Gqhoon, sorry mate ive been working away from home and have just logged in for the first time in ages, but set up a real simple trace, 17 points of pickup, and i had to pass 5 cuts to get round it, i will attempt to upload the pics to you now. again, so sorry for the inaction on my part. work takes me away sometimes


there is another screen that comes up, time to time, but im never able to catch it on camera before it disappears. have a few more parts to cut. give it a go…

No problem :ok_hand: , I know the feeling .

This might help .

oh yea, i forgot to mention, just before it puts up the popup, i notice time to time the drawing or cursor on screen will jump around, re orient and then become stable. it will cut for around 20 seconds after the pop up arrives and stops, the torch will not turn off. i need to press the ok on the popup, then turn off the torch on the screen.

DO NOT DO THIS!!
the rail is isolated on plastic bushing for a reason!!
the rail needs its own isolated voltage to work properly.

@DannyNapalm
You have electronic noise issues

What plasma cutter are you using?

Ok, guess I’ll be removing that, I couldn’t find any clear information on grounding the machine correctly , and didn’t see anything in instructions saying not to ground the rail. Thanks for the heads up ,I will remove it tomorrow . Cheers :grin:

Sorry guys, been a fair bit of away work lately, we do what we need to for the folding. got to fund the xmas ham…
thanks everyone for their contributions and I appreciate it all finding a solution to my issue.
Andrew, thanks for your product and knowledge, we all love your work. I would not have another shop without an added Arc droid handy and a few friends have followed suit.
I use my arcdroid in my home shop mostly. a few times in the field. but every second day when im working from home. I have everything mounted on a quick and easy welding table, its on rubber castors. unpack in minutes and away I go. wheel it anywhere in the shop. its great.
My plasma unit is a Strata t125, 3 phase, it allows me to do the 2 inch cuts on plate. which for gussets and such, works well on the heavy plate, I rebuild a lot of excavator buckets and such, goose necks on motor scrapers/ transporters and the like… so the power of my plasma really helps. especially with gouging work.
I use a 30 amp torch set mostly on the arc droid, as that’s usually 3mm cuts and smaller for general repairs, and panel steel as core business is automotive fabrication/light industrial. I would however like to use the big torch and the droid for gussets and cheeks, all that stuff, in the future. The plasma cutter sits behind the arc droid on the bench top. on the rubber mounts supplied. The arc droid just in front. it was all working perfectly until i added the X2, I completed all the updates, I watch them for when they arrive, and i calibrate as soon as i feel somethings a bit iffy. by and large its been clean sailing.
now given the suggestion that its based on electrical feedback, interference. i get that, my old single phase plasma made of chinesium hardly burnt paper before it spat the final dummy. and im guessing the fields coming from my new plasma nearly rip a portal in space time as a comparison. being in the general area of so much potential energy, used or stored, well it all comes from the same plug.
Before the x2 update @ install it all worked perfectly. So, my plan, for a beginning, I will station the plasma a few meters away on a separate benchtop and try the 30 amp torch. the fields even, ambient should not play a part at this distance. I will give it a crack and isolate that first, see what happens…
I bought both the droid and plasma from Auckland suppliers who market both the droid and plasma and followed their knowledge to the T. perhaps I’m not the only one who comes across this going forward. with hope it assists all who follow. I thank you all for your knowledge time and perseverance, until then, I will separate my droid from the plasma (black hole machine) and see where we get. 3Phase will be the cause…

I have struggled with my X2 since I got it over a year ago. if I tried to do multiple cuts with the same zero point the zero would move between cuts causing parts to come out different. I was leaving my X2 unplugged unless I needed it and wouldn’t have the problem. After several emails and phone calls with “ken” from ARCDROID we determined that it was electric interference from my Plasma cutter. My plasma is now 5’ away on a shelf and the X2 was worked great. I was having this problem with both a Hypertherm 45XP and a Hypertherm 85 Sync